# Multiple identical (cyrillic) glyphs in Font **URL:** \ **Category:** Glyphs\ **Created:** [June 22, 2018, 7:31pm UTC](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/t/multiple-identical-cyrillic-glyphs-in-font/9268 "2018-06-22T19:31:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![fontelster](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/f1d935/32.png) [@fontelster](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/u/fontelster)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 7:31pm UTC](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/t/multiple-identical-cyrillic-glyphs-in-font/9268/1 "2018-06-22T19:31:47Z")
I started a font with cyrillic glyphs in version 2.4, now I updated to 2.5. When I add Bulgarian, Serbian and Ukrainian glyphs, I get many glyhps identical twice or three times in the font, like for example _ge-cy, ge-cy.loclBGR, ge-cy.loclSRB._ Is this necessary? If yes, why? Couldn’t I delete the obsolete glyphs and change the locl-feature in a way, that I only need these glyphes once? ---
**Author:** ![mekkablue](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/user_avatar/forum.glyphsapp.com/mekkablue/32/23_2.png) [@mekkablue](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/u/mekkablue)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 7:39pm UTC](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/t/multiple-identical-cyrillic-glyphs-in-font/9268/2 "2018-06-22T19:39:26Z")
They are not identical. Look here: [https://localfonts.eu/typography-basics/fonts-the-importance-of-localisation/krista-radoeva-cyrillic-script-variations-and-the-importance-of-localisation/](https://localfonts.eu/typography-basics/fonts-the-importance-of-localisation/krista-radoeva-cyrillic-script-variations-and-the-importance-of-localisation/) ---
**Author:** ![fontelster](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/f1d935/32.png) [@fontelster](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/u/fontelster)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2018, 8:15pm UTC](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/t/multiple-identical-cyrillic-glyphs-in-font/9268/3 "2018-06-22T20:15:54Z")
Ok. In my font most of them would look identical, because it’s a rather technical grid-font, but I will think about it. Thanks ---
**Author:** ![fontelster](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/f1d935/32.png) [@fontelster](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/u/fontelster)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 7:37am UTC](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/t/multiple-identical-cyrillic-glyphs-in-font/9268/4 "2018-06-23T07:37:13Z")
What are the sets _Bulgarian Italic_ and _Serbian Italic_ exactly for? Do I need them for a non-italic font? ---
**Author:** ![GeorgSeifert](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/user_avatar/forum.glyphsapp.com/georgseifert/32/259_2.png) [@GeorgSeifert](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/u/GeorgSeifert)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 11:02am UTC](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/t/multiple-identical-cyrillic-glyphs-in-font/9268/5 "2018-06-23T11:02:34Z")
That are special shapes for italic fonts that are different for those languages. So you don’t need them. ---
**Author:** ![fontelster](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/f1d935/32.png) [@fontelster](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/u/fontelster)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 11:49am UTC](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/t/multiple-identical-cyrillic-glyphs-in-font/9268/6 "2018-06-23T11:49:24Z")
OK, but one thing I still don’t understand: If I add all _cyrillic/basic_ glyphs (67), 41 of them appear in _bulgarian_ and even more (50) in _bulgarian italic_. If I also add all remaining _bulgarian_ glyphs, then 66 of 67 appear in _bulgarian italic_. There’s only one glyph (iigrave-cy) left to be added in _bulgarian italic_ Does that mean, that I only don’t need this single glyph (iigrave-cy)? So, why do 66 glyphs appear in _bulgarian italic_? In the case of _serbian and macedonian_ it seems clear and more logical to me: I add 68 glyphs, and none of them appear in _serbian italic_. There are only five _serbian italic_ glyphs. ---
**Author:** ![mekkablue](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/user_avatar/forum.glyphsapp.com/mekkablue/32/23_2.png) [@mekkablue](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/u/mekkablue)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 12:24pm UTC](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/t/multiple-identical-cyrillic-glyphs-in-font/9268/7 "2018-06-23T12:24:25Z")
Maybe I do not understand your question. It is not unthinkable that there are overlaps between glyph lists, is it? > [@fontelster](#): > > In my font most of them would look identical If they have the same shape in your design, you can simply leave out the dot-suffixed variants. ---
**Author:** ![fontelster](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/f/f1d935/32.png) [@fontelster](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/u/fontelster)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 12:37pm UTC](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/t/multiple-identical-cyrillic-glyphs-in-font/9268/8 "2018-06-23T12:37:16Z")
My initial question was, what these italic glyphs are for and if I need them for a non-italic font. Georg wrote: > That are special shapes for italic fonts […]. So you don’t need them. For me that means, I don’t need all the italic glyphs for a straight font. But I don’t believe, that I can delete 67 glyphs. So my question still is: why appear so many glyphs in _bulgarian/italic_, if these glyphs are »special shapes for italic fonts«? ---
**Author:** ![mekkablue](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/user_avatar/forum.glyphsapp.com/mekkablue/32/23_2.png) [@mekkablue](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/u/mekkablue)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2018, 1:04pm UTC](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/t/multiple-identical-cyrillic-glyphs-in-font/9268/9 "2018-06-23T13:04:12Z")
> [@fontelster](#): > > But I don’t believe, that I can delete 67 glyphs. I tried to explain that there are overlaps between the listings. Many of those are in more than one list, of course. Bulgarian Upright and Bulgarian Cyrillic require different sets. This is explained in the article I posted above. The trouble is that there are some special shapes in upright that are not necessary in italic (ii-cy.loclBGR, iishort-cy.loclBGR, iigrave-cy.loclBGR, pe-cy.loclBGR, te-cy.loclBGR, tse-cy.loclBGR, sha-cy.loclBGR, shcha-cy.loclBGR, softsign-cy.loclBGR, hardsign-cy.loclBGR). So ignore the Bulgarian Italic set, and just add the upright, and in your case, get rid of all dot-suffixed glyphs.