# Please change "Azeri" to Azerbaijani or Azerbaijan **URL:** \ **Category:** Glyphs\ **Tags:** bug\ **Created:** [May 15, 2024, 1:32pm UTC](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/t/please-change-azeri-to-azerbaijani-or-azerbaijan/30024 "2024-05-15T13:32:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![tural](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/user_avatar/forum.glyphsapp.com/tural/32/26436_2.png) [@tural](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/u/tural)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2024, 1:32pm UTC](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/t/please-change-azeri-to-azerbaijani-or-azerbaijan/30024/1 "2024-05-15T13:32:50Z")
Hello. Please change the word Azeri to Azerbaijan or Azerbaijani in the Font info section as well as where there is a language change section. Because we have a more correct spelling in this form. The other does not belong to us. I hope I was able to explain my point. ---
**Author:** ![SCarewe](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/user_avatar/forum.glyphsapp.com/scarewe/32/18952_2.png) [@SCarewe](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/u/SCarewe)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2024, 1:58pm UTC](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/t/please-change-azeri-to-azerbaijani-or-azerbaijan/30024/2 "2024-05-15T13:58:52Z")
Can you explain the difference in meaning? The Wikipedia article will need updating too, in that case, it makes a lot of references to “Azeri”. [Azerbaijani language - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azerbaijani_language) ---
**Author:** ![tural](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/user_avatar/forum.glyphsapp.com/tural/32/26436_2.png) [@tural](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/u/tural)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2024, 2:25pm UTC](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/t/please-change-azeri-to-azerbaijani-or-azerbaijan/30024/3 "2024-05-15T14:25:20Z")
Yes, I agree with you. The Azeri part in Wikipedia is also wrong. Many ethnic minorities and nationalities live in Azerbaijan. As a majority, Turks, that is, Turkic-speaking peoples, are more numerous. Therefore, we are considered Azerbaijanis and our language is Azerbaijani. ---
**Author:** ![SCarewe](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/user_avatar/forum.glyphsapp.com/scarewe/32/18952_2.png) [@SCarewe](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/u/SCarewe)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2024, 2:28pm UTC](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/t/please-change-azeri-to-azerbaijani-or-azerbaijan/30024/4 "2024-05-15T14:28:37Z")
I don’t understand. The two terms are terms for the same language, no? What is the difference? What is wrong about the term “Azeri”? Azerbaijani is a Turkic language, hence the name Azeri which derives from Old Azeri. Please forgive me if I’m misunderstanding. ---
**Author:** ![tural](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/user_avatar/forum.glyphsapp.com/tural/32/26436_2.png) [@tural](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/u/tural)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2024, 2:57pm UTC](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/t/please-change-azeri-to-azerbaijani-or-azerbaijan/30024/5 "2024-05-15T14:57:42Z")
I understand you. Unfortunately, we are having difficulty preventing this type of writing. I am now a font designer and can help in my field in this way. The word “Azeri” was invented during the Soviet era. It was done to create ethnic discrimination. But the correct spelling is Azerbaijani. ---
**Author:** ![SCarewe](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/user_avatar/forum.glyphsapp.com/scarewe/32/18952_2.png) [@SCarewe](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/u/SCarewe)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2024, 3:05pm UTC](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/t/please-change-azeri-to-azerbaijani-or-azerbaijan/30024/6 "2024-05-15T15:05:26Z")
I see, it seems I didn’t properly read earlier. For whoever is interested: Old Azeri (Indo-European, Iranian): [Old Azeri - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Azeri) _not_ to be confused with: Azerbaijani (Turkic): [Azerbaijani language - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azerbaijani_language) The use of the terms is still confusing to me and I don’t quite understand why Azeri is often used interchangeably with Azerbaijani. ---
**Author:** ![tural](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/user_avatar/forum.glyphsapp.com/tural/32/26436_2.png) [@tural](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/u/tural)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2024, 3:16pm UTC](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/t/please-change-azeri-to-azerbaijani-or-azerbaijan/30024/7 "2024-05-15T15:16:43Z")
In short, you can be sure that “Azerbaijani” is a more correct spelling. ---
**Author:** ![GeorgSeifert](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/user_avatar/forum.glyphsapp.com/georgseifert/32/259_2.png) [@GeorgSeifert](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/u/GeorgSeifert)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2024, 5:27pm UTC](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/t/please-change-azeri-to-azerbaijani-or-azerbaijan/30024/8 "2024-05-15T17:27:10Z")
I have changed it. Thanks for the explanation. ---
**Author:** ![tural](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/user_avatar/forum.glyphsapp.com/tural/32/26436_2.png) [@tural](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/u/tural)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2024, 5:38pm UTC](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/t/please-change-azeri-to-azerbaijani-or-azerbaijan/30024/9 "2024-05-15T17:38:14Z")
thank you for your help ---
**Author:** ![obiobik](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/41988e/32.png) [@obiobik](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/u/obiobik)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2024, 6:09pm UTC](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/t/please-change-azeri-to-azerbaijani-or-azerbaijan/30024/10 "2024-05-15T18:09:16Z")
May I ask what do you call the language that Iranian Azeri people speak in this case? Then, do they also speak Azerbaijani and they are Azerbaijanis although they live in Iran? ---
**Author:** ![tural](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/user_avatar/forum.glyphsapp.com/tural/32/26436_2.png) [@tural](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/u/tural)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2024, 6:23pm UTC](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/t/please-change-azeri-to-azerbaijani-or-azerbaijan/30024/11 "2024-05-15T18:23:00Z")
Unfortunately, there are no Turkish language schools in Iran. Iran has banned it. They only study Persian. ---
**Author:** ![StevePhD](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/7bcc69/32.png) [@StevePhD](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/u/StevePhD)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 10:09pm UTC](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/t/please-change-azeri-to-azerbaijani-or-azerbaijan/30024/12 "2024-11-24T22:09:41Z")
This is general problem that makes me think linguists are not very logical. Does X language or X ethnicity of people refer to those who live in country Y. What about X language or X people who live in country Z outside of country Y. What about minorities in Y that don’t speak X? For X, Y, and Z substitute Azerbaijani/Azerbaijan/Iran, English/England/USA, Frence/France/Coite d’Ivoire, Spanish/Spain/Mexico, Chinese/China/Malaysia, and so on. Since Azeri is also the name of an extinct Iranian language, perhaps “Azerbaijani” is best for X and Y. That way it is as bad as the other examples, but at least no worse. This linguistic ambiguity also takes a dark political turn. Does Y country have the right to conquer Z country because it has a significant number of people with the ethnic background or language of Y, - even if they don’t want to be conquered? ---
**Author:** ![kokoshneta](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/user_avatar/forum.glyphsapp.com/kokoshneta/32/14816_2.png) [@kokoshneta](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/u/kokoshneta)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 11:33pm UTC](https://forum.glyphsapp.com/t/please-change-azeri-to-azerbaijani-or-azerbaijan/30024/13 "2024-11-24T23:33:02Z")
> [@StevePhD](#): > > This is general problem that makes me think linguists are not very logical. None of what you wrote has much to do with linguists. Linguists tend to describe languages, not ethnicities or nation states. > [@tural](#): > > The word “Azeri” was invented during the Soviet era. It was done to create ethnic discrimination. _Azeri_ was not ‘invented’ in the Soviet era – it goes back much further than that. It’s a Turkic loan of an Iranian word that has been used for centuries. The language originally called Azeri was an Iranian language unrelated to the language which is now official in Azerbaijan, but the name is the same; it was simply reused when the region was Turkified. _Azerbaijani_ (and perhaps _Azeri_ too) was first used _as the official name of the language in Azerbaijan_ during the Soviet era, in the 1930s, but the names themselves are much older. > [@](#): > > As a majority, Turks, that is, Turkic-speaking peoples, are more numerous. Therefore, we are considered Azerbaijanis and our language is Azerbaijani. This makes no sense whatsoever. The fact that the majority are _Turkic_ does not make sense as a reason for the language, or the people, to be named _Azerbaijani_ instead of _Azeri_, since both are Turkic words (borrowed from Iranian). English borrowed _Azeri_ from Turkish, where it is the most common name for the language (_azerice_), and in English, the two are interchangeable. * * * Whether you call it Azeri or Azerbaijani, both are ultimately Iranian loan words that originally referred to Iranian peoples and languages. In the context of _language support in fonts_, it does make sense to call it Azerbaijani specifically, since that bears a stronger connection to the modern-day country of Azerbaijan, which is the primary place that uses the Latin-based alphabet that the ‘Azerbaijani’ font-support tag covers. Southern Azer(baijan)i, spoken in Iran, primarily uses the Perso-Arabic script and would _not_ be included in the ‘Azerbaijani’ tag.