Arabic/Diacritics

hello,

now working with Diacritics in the arabic font I am designing
started with the fatha-ar and reached the lam_alef-ar where I tried experimenting with multiple anchors
on Glyphs it looks correct but when I test the font in illustrator the fatha-ar is typed once not on both components of the lam_alef-ar
besides the only instance of the fatha-ar on the lam_alef-ar shows at an offset even when I use one anchor as a trial
any trick for that?
thank you…

]francois-

Can you post a screenshot of the lam_alef with the anchor visible and one from illustrator. And why test in Illustrator and not in Indesign. The later has much better support for complex scripts.

please find attached the screenshots
in Indesign the fatha-ar isnt showing for any of the letters…

]francois-


hello,

after tweaking few preferences on my laptop and in indesign I managed to type the fatha-ar and it shows now in indesign
the problem is that the position is totally off compared to illustrator and the way I set it in Glyphs!!
any clue why?
I need my font to look good in both illustrator and in indesign…

]francois-

Are you using the Adobe Fonts folder?
http://www.glyphsapp.com/tutorials/testing-your-fonts-in-adobe-apps

What version of Glyphs do you have?

When you switch to another font in Indesign, does is work then?

I’m using Gliphs 1.4.5
yes I’m using abode folder to export the font
other fonts are working well on illustrator and indesign

]francois-

hello
thats how it is showing on Indesign…
check the attached pic please…

]francois-

The top_X anchors are way too high in the ligature. What does the mark look like? I suspect the _top anchor is not positioned properly.

Have you considered giving Glyphs 2 a spin? It contains many improvements for Arabic.

I’m seeing a similar problem when I test my font in Pablo Impallari’s test page. Most vowel marks end up where they should, except for the one above /seen-ar. The «top» anchor is located right on top of the middle tooth, though.

I’m using Glyphs 2.3b (851).

EDIT: Never mind, the problem was on my side. That’s actually a /sheen-ar, and the triple-dot mark was apparently broken. Strange that I didn’t see it in the Incompatible Masters smart group, though.

There was a problem in a recent beta (I think it was 873) where the second component in a compound glyph would not export. This is fixed in the latest betas again.

You probably need to check the settings of the Diacritics menu in Indesign
There are Loose, Normal & Tight ready settings from early versions of Indesign that may over-write your OT definitions.

Could you send us the .glyphs file?

avantino: I will try this
georges: already sent you the file last week
mekkblue: I cant use Glyphs 2 coz Im on os 10.7 / it the _top isnt positioned properly why is it showing well on both Glyphs and illustrator? / what did you mean by: There was a problem in a recent beta (I think it was 873) where the second component in a compound glyph would not export. This is fixed in the latest betas again.

thank you…

]francois-

I worked around with the Indesign Diacritic positioning and put it on open type, it worked like a charm!! thank you Avantino
but still the problem remains for the lam_alef-ar

]francois-

The file you send me didn’t have the anchors you are speaking about. But the ones that where in there are all over the place.
You should put the top and bottom anchors right at the edge of the glyph. The default position puts it at the xHeight but that is much to high for this font.

Then check the _top anchors in the marks. They need to be below the outline.

hello,

well I fixed all of my anchors now and they work well on both illustrator and Indesign, the only problem remaining is the lam_alef-ar and the quotedblright and quotedblleft are showing with a different font on Indesign
I will send you the file over support@glyphs.com
thank you so much for your help and support

]francois-

And can you send an Indesign File with the text you tested with?

ok sent

]francois-