Kerning RTL glyphs against universal glyphs does not work

Kerning between RTL glyhs and universal glyphs does not work at all for me. Here : hebrew SAMEKH with hyphen. (To make it clear, I have overkerned a little bit.)

Glyphs 2 or 3:

Result in Indesign:

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or TextEdit

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Do you have any hints?